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http://www.tailgatorcarrier.com/Video.aspx


i saw this thing and and watched it. the guy says he runs 70 down the hiway
looks to me like a wreck wating to happen
i cant see that much weight hanging off the back of my pu or suv
what do you guys think?


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Think will pass. Idea of 900# + hanging off my tail gate don't give me a warm feeling. I am sure that many places we go that it would have ya hung up. You can see where they were dragging on a small dip. Makes my trailer look like a better idea all the time.


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Ya,a lil spooky looking.On my wish list a 26' 5th wheel toy box to haul my quad around with driving


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interesting, had not seen that before.


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I'll go with COB on not thinking real highly about all that weight out back of the truck. Even pulling my 18' snowmobile trailer isn't real fun, but with a little practice I have stuffed in places that I probably shouldn't have but did! Like that lot on Red Cone when it was full, just backed it in and snaked through the vehicles toward the back to park it since I knew we would be one of the last to leave.


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Looked at the SVU mount. That thing looked dangerous to me. shock


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You can only imagine how much weight that quad + the rack is exerting hanging out what at least 5ft from back of truck. Add to that you hit a bump and it bounces. NO WAY! $2000 on top of it. talking about going places that a trailer can't yeah right in his dreams that suker sticks out about as far as my trailer. undecided


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You can only imagine how much weight that quad + the rack is exerting hanging out what at least 5ft from back of truck. Add to that you hit a bump and it bounces. NO WAY! $2000 on top of it. talking about going places that a trailer can't yeah right in his dreams that suker sticks out about as far as my trailer. undecided


cob; you watched farther than i did. didnt even watch it far enough to get the price
if you hit some of the bumps here going 70 the front end would be off the ground[maybe not off the ground but i'll bet it could get scary fast]


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Well, it'll either break the rack, break the truck, or the front end will be mighty squirrly.


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Been there done that. Here is my then new 2001 Chev 1/2 ton in December 2000. I hauled this small Yamaha 3 wheeler from Loveland to north east South Dakota. You could really tell it was back there. I even strapped it up to the pockets inside the truck box. I didn't feel safe with just using the reciever. My brother built this to haul a small 3 wheeler on the back of his truck. He gave it me. The rack is now a 2 wheel trailer (those who were at Spring Creek last summer saw it's maiden voyage).



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For the price of one of those, you can buy 2 decent trailers or 1 really nice trailer. IMHO

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As someone who bought a long bed truck because I didn't trust the tailgate cables to hold up one end of my Mv7, I think that's a really "interesting" concept. When you figure in the cantilever effect of having the weight that far back, who even has a receiver that is rated for that kind of load? I hooked too large a boat trailer to our CJ 7 once (was just going to fill the boat w/ gas to be ready for the next day) for a 2 mile trip, worked great until I applied some brake on a short down hill whereupon I found that steering was very light (what with the front wheels barely on the ground) but control was limited. Got slowed to a crawl and just crept back home after that.

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Interesting concept, I think this one here is about the only only one I would feel comforatable using. It called the lite model rated for a minimum of 1/4 ton truck. I think it would be nice If you have a Toolbox in a short bed truck and wanted to avoid the whole trailer issues they were mentioning in there video. It also keeps the machine up higher so as not to drag the ground coming in and out of driveways


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My brother who built the carrier that is pictured on my truck above also built one for his truck like in the picture just above. Here are his and mine Sportsman 500s loaded for Rampart a few years ago. He has it on his 2000 Dodge 3/4 ton diesel. It worked very good.


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I am with COB...I would not trust that for a 900 lb machine doing 80 down the interstate at all... fan
 
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I wouldn't do it with a half ton or light duty truck. I carried a 300lb dirt bike in a hitch carrier and it was enough to worry about. Tongue weight limits on half tons are anywhere from 500-1500 lbs. The length of the hitch bar would put a lot of leverage on the hitch. It would also be a pain to install and remove by yourself.

Reading his site it ways for 2/4-1 tons for the gator 1.


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There was an old guy in the RV park i am staying at that had one of these. He had a Goldwing on his and was towing a car behind that.The hitch was attached to this rack shock

When i saw it, i thought this guy was Who Me


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I'm not too sure about a big-bore ATV on a hitch either. I've put my bike on a carrier all the time, and have wheeled some REAL tough trails with out a problem.
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My Jeep ZJ after wheeling and riding Spring Creek.


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Friends, I think some "matters of degree" might be involved in consideration of this hitch-hauler device.

The "degrees" involved include the carrying capacity of the prime mover (the pickup or SUV; is it mini, half-ton, 3/4 ton, 1-ton?), the weight and center-of-gravity of the payload (dirt bike, ATV, golf cart, what-have-you), and the terrain to be negotiated (Interstate highways, ditches-and-dips, whatever).

Within this spectrum of loads and terrain, I don't doubt there are applications where this hauler works great; faster, safer, and/or more convenient than, for example, trailers.

Also, there are combinations where the rig might work, "not so good." The geometry appears inescapable, the long overhang guarantees scalping on some ditch-crossings, bank descents and ascents, etc.

So, the device has its limitations; but . . . its applications also, I would think.

If the device and its load do not exceed the vehicle's payload weight, or the tongue weight, hauling looks plausible to me.

Handling? Don't think you want to enter a NASCAR Craftsman Truck series race with it, but--as with any unusual load distribution, you gotta take these factors into consideration when you drive.

I won't condemn the device in the abstract; I'd want to log a few miles with one installed and loaded before I passed judgment, or at least get the take of some unbiased source who has direct and first-hand personal experience doing so.

Installation and removal from the pickup receiver hitch doesn't look particularly difficult, with the wheeled strut and "legs" shown in the latter part of the video.

Bottom line, the "Tail-Gator" may or may not fit one's individual hauler, load, and/or environment, but--wouldn't write it off for everyone, based upon the limited information in the video.

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The UNUSUAL draws critical scrutiny.

As some know, I use a Louisiana Guard Dog, a hold-down/security device selling for around $ 150 ( http://www.laguarddog.com ).

Frequently asked questions:

"Don't you hafta tie the front end down?" Answer: No, you don't. The single point hold-down of the trailer hitch ball secures and stabilizes the quad adequately.

"Ain't that too much weight on the TAILGATE?" Answer: No, not at all. The dynamic weight of the rear wheels is transferred to the pickup FRAME, through the receiver hitch, not to the tailgate. (BTW, looks like some similar dynamic load transfer exists with the Tail-Gator, the device discussed in this thread.)

These are just a couple of examples of "NIH" (not invented here) or "it won't work, cause I don't have one" criticisms; I'd try to caution against such critiques of the Tail-Gator.

An often-posted image of my own rig follows.



LOUISIANA GUARD DOG SECURES QUAD; AUXILIARY TRAILER HITCH PULLS DIRT BIKE TRAILER

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I don't think anyone is knocking the la guard dog. I have seen many people use them and they seem to work just fine. They really don't hold any weight of the bike, just keep it in place. As far as weight on the tail gate, if my 93 Toyota tailgate can handle my Grizzly sitting on it, then any truck can take that weight. What most of us are talking about is the hitch mount quad racks where all the weight of the quad is on the single 2 inch square tube supported by the hitch. I just don't think i would want to trust that single piece of steal to hold my entire Grizzly in place. $10k and 670 pounds balanced on a 2 inch square tube??? No Thanks.

The guy i was talking about had a 900 Lbs Honda Goldwing on his rack that was like this one in the link and was towing a Honda CR-V that was attached to this hitch carrier. That is the kind of stuff that is dangerous. When i saw him driving around the park with it you could see the rack deflect by about 6-8 inches or more at the top. That is a lot of flex IMO and will eventually break.

Just the bike would be fine and most 200-300 pound dirt bikes would be fine as the weight is right up agansit the hitch, but a ATV is just too big IMO to mount on a htch rack unless it is a 50-125cc kids bike, not a big bore.


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Originally posted by Tree Farmer:
Friends, I think some "matters of degree" might be involved in consideration of this hitch-hauler device.

The "degrees" involved include the carrying capacity of the prime mover (the pickup or SUV; is it mini, half-ton, 3/4 ton, 1-ton?), the weight and center-of-gravity of the payload (dirt bike, ATV, golf cart, what-have-you), and the terrain to be negotiated (Interstate highways, ditches-and-dips, whatever).

Within this spectrum of loads and terrain, I don't doubt there are applications where this hauler works great; faster, safer, and/or more convenient than, for example, trailers.

Also, there are combinations where the rig might work, "not so good." The geometry appears inescapable, the long overhang guarantees scalping on some ditch-crossings, bank descents and ascents, etc.

So, the device has its limitations; but . . . its applications also, I would think.

If the device and its load do not exceed the vehicle's payload weight, or the tongue weight, hauling looks plausible to me.

Handling? Don't think you want to enter a NASCAR Craftsman Truck series race with it, but--as with any unusual load distribution, you gotta take these factors into consideration when you drive.

I won't condemn the device in the abstract; I'd want to log a few miles with one installed and loaded before I passed judgment, or at least get the take of some unbiased source who has direct and first-hand personal experience doing so.

Installation and removal from the pickup receiver hitch doesn't look particularly difficult, with the wheeled strut and "legs" shown in the latter part of the video.

Bottom line, the "Tail-Gator" may or may not fit one's individual hauler, load, and/or environment, but--wouldn't write it off for everyone, based upon the limited information in the video.

------------------

The UNUSUAL draws critical scrutiny.

As some know, I use a Louisiana Guard Dog, a hold-down/security device selling for around $ 150 ( http://www.laguarddog.com ).

Frequently asked questions:

"Don't you hafta tie the front end down?" Answer: No, you don't. The single point hold-down of the trailer hitch ball secures and stabilizes the quad adequately.

"Ain't that too much weight on the TAILGATE?" Answer: No, not at all. The dynamic weight of the rear wheels is transferred to the pickup FRAME, through the receiver hitch, not to the tailgate. (BTW, looks like some similar dynamic load transfer exists with the Tail-Gator, the device discussed in this thread.)

These are just a couple of examples of "NIH" (not invented here) or "it won't work, cause I don't have one" criticisms; I'd try to caution against such critiques of the Tail-Gator.

An often-posted image of my own rig follows.



LOUISIANA GUARD DOG SECURES QUAD; AUXILIARY TRAILER HITCH PULLS DIRT BIKE TRAILER


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