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A new Ad by the Ad Council just completely baseless. There has been no document fire started by an OHV with a FEDERALLY Mandated Spark Arrester.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cowvlUmXMvQ


http://www.stateforesters.org/smokey_bear/smokey_bear


To formally get this ad pulled....please send your emails to:

Amy Grant at agrant@adcouncil.org
Sarah McCreary at smccreary@stateforesters.org
H. Cleveland at hcleveland@fs.fed.us
 
Posts: 91 | Registered: May 03, 2008Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Sure does point the finger at ATVs as being a big culprit, but as most all stock ATVs have Federal approval of their spark arrestors, it sure makes us all look bad when in fact it's fiction! Barf

Below is the email that I sent them!

I take offense at the misleading context of the commercial linked here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cowvlUmXMvQ It portrays ATV riders in a negative light when in fact most if not all take riding in national forests and other forest lands quite seriously. All manufacturer ATVs are mandated to have Federal Approved spark arrestors and as such, do not pose the risk portrayed in this commercial. If anything, this ad should be changed and directly address the issue of spark arrestors being removed and the serious consequences of those actions.

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Posts: 2531 | Location: Thornton, Colorado | Registered: September 19, 2006Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Sent my e mail to the appropriate addreses and also alerted my other ATV riding partners. We work very hard in assisting the FS and to have something like this is really irritating. It certainly puts us in a dim light and negates a a lot of the good stuff we do. Bob


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Posts: 183 | Location: Tijeras , N.M. | Registered: June 05, 2007Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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This is the response from the head of Utah's OHV Division of the State Parks and Recreation.

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My reply to the Ad Council, Forest Service (including copies to local and regional folks) and the National Association of State Foresters (including a copy to Utah's State Forester). Thanks to the rest for your wording which I shamelessly stole!

Fred


To Whom it may concern:

I recently viewed the new Smokey Bear public service announcements found on www.stateforesters.org and sponsored jointly by the Ad Council, the USDA Forest Service, and the National Association of State Foresters. While the PSAs were clever and well produced, I found the segment dealing with all-terrain vehicles and fire prevention to be offensive and lacking a factual basis.

The PSA implies that the act of starting any ATV will produce sparks sufficient to start a wildfire. That is simply untrue. A properly maintained ATV, with the required spark arrestor in place, does not present the fire hazard discussed in the PSA. To the best of my knowledge, there is no documented instance of an ATV, with the proper equipment (spark arrestor) installed, having started a wildfire by simply being started on public lands. Implying otherwise is irresponsible and dishonest, and is a misrepresentation of the facts.

In the absence of documented evidence that starting an ATV on a cleared, unvegetated parking area (as depicted in the ad) will start a wildfire, I would request that the ad be immediately pulled from circulation. In its present configuration, this ad is most certainly not a "Public Service Announcement" but is a blatant, malicious attack on motorized recreation and the millions of responsible American families who safely and responsibly ride ATVs, and appears to be more directed at advancing an "anti-motorized" political agenda than at educating the public. The Ad Council, the USDA Forest Service, and the National Association of State Foresters should be embarrassed by this ad.

Fred


It is time we all stood up and spoke up to protect our love of ATVs and the outdoors.

PLEASE write to the email addresses listed and anyone and everyone you know to spread the word that his Public Service announcement is a False and misleading and needs to be pulled from circulation immediately.

I recommend everyone also write to each and every ATV manufacturer and let them know they are being made to look as if they are building flame throwers not sophisticated machines with built in Federally mandated fire prevention and safety equipment.

According to the National Association of State Foresters website

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The Ad Council is distributing the new PSAs to media outlets nationwide this week. Per the Ad Council's model, the PSAs are airing and running in advertising time that is donated by the media. Since 1980, the Wildfire Prevention campaign has received more than $1 billion in donated advertising time and space. The campaign is the longest-running PSA campaign in U.S. history.


I therefore suggest everyone also bombard their local media with phone calls and emails to request they NOT run this PSA. As stated above
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"In its present configuration, this ad is most certainly not a "Public Service Announcement" but is a blatant, malicious attack on motorized recreation and the millions of responsible American families who safely and responsibly ride ATVs, and appears to be more directed at advancing an "anti-motorized" political agenda than at educating the public. "


PLEASE take a minute and write a letter or email to complain about this false advertising.


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Posts: 58 | Location: Colorado | Registered: November 20, 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Warghoul - thank you for bringing this to our attention. I just sent an email to the name and address you gave to respond to this ad.

Hopefully, lots of folks will email Amy Grant and the ad will be removed.

Kaye

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Posts: 418 | Location: LaSalle, Colorado | Registered: April 26, 2006Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Got my reply to my email today. Unfortunately it's as an Adobe pdf file and I'm unsure how to post it. If I do, I will. Basically it says that they are just trying to bring attention that all motorized vehicles can cause wildfires, but his one just happens to show an ATV.


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I'm writing one now....


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emails sent


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Done....thx War
 
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